BIO

After spending years becoming proficient in the art of street dancing. Self taught dancer Shane Garcia was nationally recognized on “So You Think You Can Dance”, season 10, where he gained extensive experience in the industry and gained a lot of opportunities working in the field. He then went on to continue his journey through performing and choreographing for many music talents. Shane also, has always had a passion for music. He studied in classical piano since the age of 14 before branching out on his own and inevitably found his passion in producing music at the age of 16, which is his path today. Creating his own art by fusing dance and piano, he has also developed a way to play the piano and dance at the same time. These days, his music production style, which sets him apart, is found from the history and experience of being a dancer

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EPISODE HIGHLIGHTS

0:00-10:30: introductions 

10:30-30:00: finding your groove; early school life, day one friends

30:00-47:00: learning to dance, influential people

47:00-53:21: dance party (actual dancing with Shane!)

53:21- end SYTYCD & dance reflections

RESOURCE LIST

• “So You Think You Can Dance”, season 10
  

• Dance is My Language
  

MORE QUOTES

Your purpose is greater than your comfort. And once you have an eye to your purpose or hone in on it, write it on a piece of paper, put it on a wall, put it in your phone because when it gets tough you might fall off a bit. If you keep the habit of remembering it, you're going to pick yourself back up again. - Shane Garcia

TRANSCRIPTION:

Uri Schneider: Well, well, well, we are moving and grooving with my man Shane Isaiah Garcia. Monday's already Schneider. It is a treat, uh, to host this conversation, this podcast episode of transcending stuttering. And I am a little bit star struck.

Uri Schneider: Um, I, uh, I first was mesmerized by this man's feet and his poise and, and the way he was, he was like right before he was getting on the football field, the way he was moving and grooving right before he got on stage in 2000, was it 2013? Uh, Shane was a contestant on, so you think you can dance? Um, And to say it bluntly.

Uri Schneider: I have used the video of his performance, both the way that he uses dance and movement as his language to express himself, as well as the poise and the poetry with which he speaks. And the way he handled introducing himself on that stage to this day, not only inspires me, but has been a video that I would enjoy sharing with other young people.

Uri Schneider: I believe everybody has a different strengths at different channel, a different path of expressing their creativity, their spirit, their soul in this world. For some people, words come easy. I got that from my grandfather. I didn't have to work hard at the fact that I have a way with words. My dad got it from my grandfather.

Uri Schneider: I got it from my dad. Some of my kids got it from me. And some of my kids express themselves through their creativity and through other activities. And I think it's really important that we shine a light on different ways of expressing oneself. So without further ado, uh, I just want to introduce my man, Shane Garcia.

Uri Schneider: I will give him the credit of a bio because his bio is worth saying, and then let him introduce himself, but we're going to talk about or talk about what it's like growing up. Before he kind of found the confidence to step onto that stage and kind of how he found that rhythm found that gift that he has and how he chose and how he found the way the courage to lean into it.

Uri Schneider: And then we'll talk about kind of what his career looks like, what his life looks like, what that experience was like standing on that stage and having the judge interrupted, we're going to touch as much as Shane is willing to do. We've already connected on clubhouse and I'll also share, he'll talk about how.

Uri Schneider: I hounded him down for nine years to make this happen. Uh, my man, Shane in Florida, after spending years becoming proficient in the art of street dancing self-taught dancer, Shane Garcia. He's resourceful. It was nationally recognized as a contestant on. So you think you can dance season 10, where he gained extensive experience in the industry.

Uri Schneider: And that's a lots opportunities working in the fields. He then went on to continue his journey through performing choreographing for many music talents. Shane also has a passion for music. He studied in classical piano since the age of 14, before branching out on his own, inevitably found his passionate producing music at the age of 16, which is his path till today.

Uri Schneider: Creating his own arts fusing dance piano has been as also developed a way to play the piano and dance at the same time. Go figure it's not a grand piano. I don't think these days, his music production style, which sets him apart is found from the history and experience of being a dancer without further ado.

Shane Garcia: Shane Garcia. Well, thank you. So much. Um, yeah, it's, it's, it's been, it's been an extremely, uh, long time, a long time. Um, it is, is it, is this a true honor to be here? Uh, finally, um, and I just want to say, I just want to just give you, uh, a huge, um, shout out and a huge, just a hug too, honestly, just say, um, Thank you for your support for, um, the love, the love it, and honestly, um, showed it, it, it.

Shane Garcia: It was just amazing to see that, to, to feel it. Um, so thank you for this and yeah, I'm just, I'm excited. So,

Uri Schneider: so I don't know. I mean, you, um, you were very much, uh, in the spotlight after those 15 minutes of fame, so to speak, as I wrote, some people kind of fade away or. You know, it doesn't serve them well to have that opportunity at the wrong time, but it seems like you have really taken it further and serve to refine and take your career onwards.

Uri Schneider: So you really haven't talked about that or revisited that, or had many spots recently to talk about this and it, the kind of intersect of different identities and different parts of who you are and how you are a man in this world and what you do. So I'm super stoked and there are a lot of people that are.

Uri Schneider: Uniquely interested in you and your story. So maybe just tell us what you think is important to know about you today. And then maybe you can roll us back to like 12 year old Shane and how you got from there to here, you know, but maybe just like, what would you wish people would know about you today that maybe isn't in the bio?

Shane Garcia: Um, uh, I would. Okay, so. Some something that people, I feel like they're there, they're getting to know me, um, with, um, but they don't because the, the dance has been in the, this, the spot where the light is, um, is my music. I just kinda like. Touched base on that with the, with the, with the bio, um, for just like a little bit.

Shane Garcia: Um, but, but, uh, dance actually like founded music and I started that. I really, I really started that at 16. Um, I, I, I, uh, Um, my mom, she like took me to two piano at four teen and my, um, my, my, uh, my there, uh, she she's she's, she's still alive. Um, and, and, and, and God bless her. So she's, she's this really short, um, um, uh, Um, Sievers like at that time she was, uh, like, I think like in a seventies, but now she's in her eighties now.

Shane Garcia: And, um, but so amazing. So, so, so relational. And so that. For me, like set the fountain dation of, of, of music. Because I, because I always say that music and dance are it's a marriage. Um, but I really started to, to really. Go in the direction of just pre dosing, uh, music and, um, audio meringue. And so that event, so, so actually, um, that, that actually, uh, put, put me on the path of, will it be where I am like.

Shane Garcia: Right, right in the now. And so today I, uh, I work with artists, um, I, I over produce the music. Um, and the style of music that I produce is like, uh, it's it's like, uh it's um, I, I would say it's like, uh, you know what I would say. I think it would be like between a mixture of like hip hop, but then, uh, within a mixture of classical.

Shane Garcia: Um, so it's this, it's this blend it's like, and like the feel of like pop, but not pop, but not hip pop, but not classical, but it's this fuse. And so, um, yeah, so that's, that's, that's something that like, Uh, a lot of people may not know about me. Um, like, except for like really close our friends and everything and, and people who may follow me.

Shane Garcia: Um, yeah. So,

Uri Schneider: yeah. Awesome. Well, there's some really awesome people from across this country and around the world. I already see following, we got my man Carl coffee coming in from. Uh, Ooh, bowling green. And we got, uh, Steph coming from Colorado. We got some other friends here following you and interested in your story.

Uri Schneider: So if you appreciate Shane and his words and his story, share this. If you're watching it live, drop your likes and your comments. If you're listening to the podcast, share it. It's a story worth hearing and, uh, awesome. So how'd you get, so you got this, a piano teacher. I tried to track her down using it when I couldn't get you to answer my calls back in 2013, I tried to use the Jewish playing card.

Uri Schneider: So I tried to track down your piano teacher, but, uh, she wasn't taking calls either. So

Shane Garcia: did you find her?

Uri Schneider: Uh, I was trying everything I could to track you down, man. No, we'll get to the, we'll get to the moment on that stage, but I love, I love the fusion. I love the personality and the humanity and like the indescribable.

Uri Schneider: I think music is infinite. You know, it's very hard to describe music and words. It's very hard to describe something spiritual with science. And it's just a different wavelength. It's a different frequency. It's like, you know, things that a dog can hear and things that people can hear you can't describe, but something sounds like that's a very difficult thing to do.

Uri Schneider: So I, I love the fact that you can't exactly put your music in a box, but you've been influenced by many things, but ultimately it's, it shamed me music, you know, it's Shane's song. So. You know, prior to that, prior to hooking into that, what was it like, you know, growing up, uh, you know, school-age years, early teenage years, and then like, That transition.

Uri Schneider: I'm so interested in people who achieve and find their groove and find their footing, but not to whitewash or take away. In fact, it's even more inspiring for people who are still finding their footing, kind of know where you were, if you would shed a light on that, if that's comfortable and then maybe like, what were some of those key openings that got you from one chapter to the

Shane Garcia: next.

Shane Garcia: Um, so growing up was, uh, it, it, it was, um, it was, it, it was interesting for me. Um, I, uh, how can I, how can I put this? Um, so our start back from. One of the earliest, um, memorable ways for me. I actually, uh, I, with between from when I was a child, till about 10, I actually grew up in, um, uh, Richmond, Virginia. Um, And so,

Uri Schneider: you know, Shane, Shane, I don't want to discriminate.

Uri Schneider: We got people chime in and they want you to know where they're from. So we got dealt, dealt in from Texas Hazelden. Yeah, we got Adam of course, Adam is, is like a regular dependable, you know, Adam, uh, and of course Carl, and then we got Anna Paula coming in from Kansas. So I kid you not, when I say we got people coming in from across the country.

Uri Schneider: So lots of love Carl is shouting out with the Richmond, Virginia in the house. Absolutely Nova all the way. All right. Sorry for interrupting. I just think those people would appreciate it.

Shane Garcia: Yeah. And, and, um, Fisher 88 Oh four. Um, but, um, I, uh, I, um,

Shane Garcia: yeah, well, one of my earliest memories was I, I came, I came home from school. I, I mean, I don't even remember how old I was. Um, I was probably like, uh, maybe like five or six or something, you know? And so, uh, all the memory that I can remember was I came home and I like went on to my couch and I was just crying because I was like, uh, get in.

Shane Garcia: Picked on, or I think it was because of B because it, because it was because it was stuttering that I was like that I, I came home and I was just like crying. And so, um, and so that, that, that was, uh, that was, uh, that, that was a memory for me that I never forgot the guard. And so, um, So growing up in school and school was bittersweet.

Shane Garcia: Uh, the bitter, because I started. And so it, it was this it throughout all school, it was this huge battle I'm of not wanting to let people know that I started because I was a child. Right. And it was, and it was scary for me to, to, uh, show that because I even think at that time, um, it just, it, it, uh, like, I don't want to say like, not accepted, but it wasn't something that was like, like as common, right.

Shane Garcia: Um, Or, or like we're really out there too, to like that extent, for sure. Not really having these, um, these lifestyle of speech and, and, and like all these things, you know? Um, and so, uh, I, I, um, It, it was, it was hard because I didn't want to let people know that the sweet part of it was that I had, I had a few people, like a few brands that were.

Shane Garcia: Really good. Right. And so, and so they, they, they were, I call them my, my, my day one friends because they, you know, like, Th those, those were like the, the, the people that, that, that kept me up that kept me going in all that didn't like judge me or whatever it is, you know, for it. Um, and I love school because of them, but I hated school because of two things.

Shane Garcia: Um, because I. I do, I would, I would hate to raise my hand and I'm pretty sure that anyone, everyone that's that's that's like, look and I can definitely relate. I, I w I would hate to raise my hand and that actually had a big effect on me because there were questions that I, I wanted to know. Um, but. I was, I was fearful and, uh, I was, I was fearful and trying to raise my hand or even like ask someone next to me that didn't know me, that they didn't know I started.

Shane Garcia: So, um, and, and, and the, the timeline then I was speaking up is in high school. So, um, So that really had an effect on me because I, uh, I didn't pass a lot of my stuff. Um, The second reason why I hated school was because I, on my inside, I'm an, I'm an artist, I'm a creator. So my brain was just like on dance music.

Shane Garcia: And so my friends in, in high school, um, Was just like, they, they, they were, they were hardest. They were, um, dancers and everything of that sort. Um, so, so, uh, so mom was, so my mind was, was on the creation of art and dance and everything. Um, And so anyway, make, make, uh, make, uh, make, uh, make, uh, make a long story short.

Shane Garcia: I actually, I, I will never forget that I'm barely graduate high school because, uh, just, just, just because of everything, you know, B because there's this, I just want it, I just want it to just like, show. People, I just want it to just like show the world, just my, my art. And, um, and that, that, that for me was my, like, Algebra or science that to, to, to be able to create nothing from, um, um, um, something from nothing that was my school.

Shane Garcia: Um, and so, um, but it, it was, it was, it was hard. Um, but what made it good and. And better were the great people in my life. And I think that we, we, we have that, um, because when you, when you, when you have that, those great people, you, they really help you to push to push forward because they pushed me, you know, um,

Uri Schneider: Let me ask you.

Uri Schneider: Can I interject the question? When, when do you, when's the first time you remember speech being hard for you and when's the first time in relation to that, that you remember feeling like I got something inside of me that I need to dance out, that I need to rhythm out of me, meaning. I'm just interested in the emergence and evolution of like, so speech didn't come as easy as it did to some other people.

Uri Schneider: And then you also identify this fire inside of you. If you had something you wanted to let out this creativity, I'm just wondering if one was born out of the other or it was, you know, I'm just curious in like the sequence or relationship between the two. And I loved how you talked about it was. Hard, but it was good.

Uri Schneider: It was bitter, but it was sweet. And I think too often, we kind of like just throw one feeling on something and the ability in music in particular and in movement that we can shade things with mixed feelings, you know, different types of ways that we can add different layers. But I love what you're saying.

Uri Schneider: I was just wondering about the age. You remember it being a thing. And when you identified the, the creative, the creative inside of you.

Shane Garcia: There was a, okay. There was a specific moment in the middle of, um, the, the thing where speech was a thing, um, was in middle school. And, um, that's, that's when I really had that's when I really noticed that, um, that like, I, I like have, uh, Something, you know, um, that that was gonna cause like I knew about it, you know, back in elementary school, but I think middle school is where it really hit, um, the crossover where there was this thing inside and read that, uh, You know, um, wanted to just let it out.

Shane Garcia: I will never forget. I, um, I think I came home from, from school and I was, uh, I believe I was frustrated about something, you know, um, something I don't, I don't really remember, but I just started. I, I like went in my room. I shut the door, close off the blinds. It was the arc and I just danced and I just danced so hard.

Shane Garcia: I just, I just was just, I was just, I didn't know what I was doing. I was just moving, moving, moving. And. Maybe without me knowing it, because now as I look back on it and I'm even speaking on it, that I believe that was the moment for me, that set me on the path. The, even, even this, even, even how I. To dance to people.

Shane Garcia: What I, what I wanted to say, that's what, that's, what that was set. That's what really set the, the, the moment. Not exactly

Uri Schneider: out of a plan. And it wasn't even a sweet moment. It wasn't a comfortable moment, very unpleasant, frustrated moment, and you shut the blinds and you just let loose. And suddenly you found so someone inside of you that was coming out.

Uri Schneider: And from that point forward, you just remember that as a turning point.

Shane Garcia: Yeah. Yeah. As, um, as, um, as only even speaking about it, I'm like, wow. Like I never forgot that, that time. And I really think that that set me down this like path of like, um, uh, wanting to let out what I say, but also. Bring in, in spur will gration has as well.

Uri Schneider: So even as a teenager, even as a teenager, and I know people like Delton, for example, are out there inspiring others and being role models for others. But I'm fascinated. We just finished this cohort experience eight weeks with these teenagers. And I can't wait for them to meet you. We're bringing these special guests, you know, I won't mention who, but we're welcoming all sorts of people to come to just be role models and aspirational people who have.

Uri Schneider: Stood in their shoes to some degree or another, know what it's like to be a teenager, finding yourself is hard enough. And that to have maybe a stutter or something else that's different. But, uh, what I loved and what we invited these teams, we said, you know, what do you want to do now? And they were like, well, what's next?

Uri Schneider: And we said, well, maybe, maybe. Like in high school in camp, you go to camp, you're a camper. And then if you really good camper, maybe you get to be a junior counselor, you know, you get to give back. And when we put that in front of these teenagers, many of them are still finding their footing. They were like, really?

Uri Schneider: You think I have something to give? And so I love how for you that pivot of like, were, you were just going into it. I'd love for you to just lean into that, the feeling that you wanted to inspire others. Did that come at a similar stage in your life, or only later, like. What's that the idea of giving back and inspiring others.

Uri Schneider: I love it.

Shane Garcia: That, that, um, that came later. Um,

Uri Schneider: and then, yeah, so let's stay, then let's stay when you're young, let's stay where it was. It was, it was, it was young, it was bittersweet. School was rough. How much a school being rough and you finding yourself, had to do with your speech and how much of it had to do with the fact that algebra wasn't your jam.

Uri Schneider: And, and you need to be a creative. I'm just curious because some people would say, Oh, you know, that stutter, that must've made it really rough. And for someone else to be like, forget about the stutter, like, I just wasn't like a square, you know, I was like a square and a round hole, you know? So how much of it was like being a creative in a traditional educational path?

Uri Schneider: Uh, how much of it was the speech? Like was the speech even a thing for you?

Shane Garcia: The, the, the speech, it, I believe it was like, If I had to put it into a percentage, probably 60, 40 with speech being 60 creative being 40. Um, I just,

Uri Schneider: I just think that's profound. I just want people to think about that when you meet a young person, I'm always shocked when I meet someone for the first time.

Uri Schneider: And like, let's say they're a little bit more shy, a little bit more reserved. And the assumption is because their speech isn't like everyone else. That's why they're reserved and shy. And if only their speech was different, they'd be like, Everybody else. But in reality, if you stop and you ask people, especially if you stopping as their parents, like, what are you guys like?

Uri Schneider: And they're like, Oh, we're kind of reserved and shy too. We don't, we don't, we don't have a stutter. That's just the way we roll. Like, that's a legitimate version of humanity. And so for many young people, I'm just saying there's a lot more to a person than their speech. And it's easy to just think the color of their skin or their speech or whatever difference.

Uri Schneider: That may or may not be as big a thing as you think it's important to be curious, important to ask and as many creative young people they're just trying to get by and they need someone to recognize that what they really need is to find a way to have an outlet to express that creative inside of them.

Uri Schneider: So I just, I love that. So you said there were, there were supportive people shame. I was just wondering, was it a teacher, a guidance counselor, a parent, a family member, a community person who were some of those players. And what impact did they have on you?

Shane Garcia: I know exactly who, um, my friends who, who, because I've, I've always been the one that has like a very small circle of, of people.

Shane Garcia: Um, uh, just, just, just because like I value good. And I like to really keep. Close to me. Great influential, positive people in my circle. Um, people of like this, the same mindset as me. And so, so, so when I say for brands, it's, it's like those. Types of, uh, friends, um, that I, that I had, um, my, I had a guidance counselor.

Shane Garcia: It's it's funny because, um, he here in Florida, I'm not sure if it's like this, any where else, but you need a 2.0 GPA to graduate. I had a. I had a 1.999, nine, nine, nine. Right. And so I'll never forget it. So C a a C, C bumped me up. I don't know how she, I don't know what she did. I don't know how she, she did it, but she brought me up.

Shane Garcia: It was, um, so it was people like her and, um, and then I had. And I had an English teacher who, um, was C, C, she was such a fan of me. Um, and just with everything. Cause I th I think, I don't know if she, I, I, I think she, she, she, she, um, she had like empathy too. To me and everything. Um, her one of the biggest, biggest biggest is, uh, my dance teacher in high school.

Shane Garcia: Um, Pay me, he comes and she was, she was for me, such a pivotal, uh, uh, uh, she was a pinnacle in, in my, my life. Um, I mean, she was like, like, I call her. Like my mom, because that's what, that's what I got. That's what she get paid me. She like pushed, um, like it's like, it just, it just, just didn't let me get dragged behind.

Shane Garcia: Um, she saw something in me that I didn't see in myself. At first. Um, so it was

Uri Schneider: hard that right there is so powerful. Anybody that's been listening to these episodes, that's something I, I keep hearing and I keep kind of amplifying. It's like so many young people and adults they don't see in themselves, but this, something that someone with a good, I can see in someone they don't see themselves yet.

Uri Schneider: And if they just start kind of fan in those flames, Still the person doesn't see it. They don't feel it. They think you're faking it. They think you're making them feel good. Eventually it catches fire inside of that person and they start to see it themselves. And that's a, that's a human story that keeps coming back again and again, and we didn't prep that that was beautiful.

Uri Schneider: She saw in you something and she wouldn't give up and you didn't know you had it and she kind of stoked it.

Shane Garcia: Yeah. And, and, and, uh, and then to go, to go back to. My piano

Shane Garcia: teacher.

Uri Schneider: We're definitely no back to the piano teacher, because call coffee says he can't get out of his head. The image of a 70 year old piano teacher teaching you how to dance. Well, well,

Shane Garcia: well, well she, well, she did, she did it. Um, See, she didn't teach me how to dance. She, what she did was set the foundation of, of shame.

Shane Garcia: And I will, I will be forever grateful for her. And. And I'm actually, I, I actually have to, to try to see her, you know, just, just, just because I don't, I don't, and I'm not like, um, I'm putting this honor, but I do know that she's not getting younger. And after this day she's still. Teaching piano in her home and everything.

Shane Garcia: I mean, she is like a fire Cracker see is just, but, and, and so, so C, C would always say that, like that, like I have a, uh, a special place in her heart for me. Um, I call her like, I call her my, my, my. Bran c'mon, you know, um, just, just because I never really met my mind. So her CC is this. She is, she is that which she did.

Shane Garcia: Um, so, so, so she's somebody else. She, um, she, she, she taught me. She taught me the importance of feeling. Um, and that is what laid the foundation of dance of music for me, because she would do, she would like tell me things like Lala, like feel. Feel alive, feel the keys, um, things, things that you, you just have to be there to like understand.

Shane Garcia: She, she didn't the sheet. She even made me because I would talk to her about my, about my stuttering. And so she was the one who had actually put a metronome Gnomon and told me to speak. Um, so I was like, And I was like, okay. It was like, tick, tick, tick, tick. And then I was like, I was like, wow, I never thought of speaking with a Metro numb, but because I have this musical brain that I, that I have that for me was a B, so it was like tick, tick, tick, tick.

Shane Garcia: So I was speaking in between these beats, right. So, so I, so, and, and that, that was life-changing for me. Um, and then she even put on music and had me speak it. It was just, it was just like things that. She sit, sit, sit, heart me about feeling. She really, she, she, she really did. And, and, uh, it, it it's even like emotional too, even like going to, because it was because it was such a, it was such a life changing time for me from 14 to 19.

Shane Garcia: And then, um, Then next person was got into acting. Um, so I, so I, so I, so I did this because I was like, you know what, because I, because I saw these actors that, that, uh, stuttered. So I was like, okay, well, well, it has to be something. So I'm going to,

Uri Schneider: who did you think of? Who were those people that came to mind?

Shane Garcia: Well, it was like, um, Uh, Samuel L. Jackson, um, James Earl Jones. Um, one of my biggest biggest inspirations, um, Steve Harvey and, you know, and so, so I was like, okay, um, let, let me, let me, let me see.

Uri Schneider: Yeah. Fran disease parentheses just for anyone listening. And most of your drop in comments and likes, just keep those coming.

Uri Schneider: But if you're listening, I just want to say metronomes and Steve Harvey's solution for stuttering are not for everybody. That's a whole nother conversation, but for Shane, for Shane, the right person at the right time, having a role model, showing how you can crush it. If you're someone who grew up with a stutter is, is monumental.

Uri Schneider: And having somebody who taps into your cadence of your. Your rhythm is awesome, but nobody should leave here thinking, Oh, Shane became Shane cause a Metro. No, let me put him next to my kid who stutters? Not a good idea. We can talk about that offline, but for Shane, it was the right thing at the right time.

Uri Schneider: And it was, it was a game changer and it gave him foundation cause it gave him feeling and rhythm and music and kind of fused and like feelings lead on to the, I love it.

Shane Garcia: And, and I like what you, what you said big, big, because it's, she, she, she felt to give me that based on me and based on what I guess like, like, like, it was one of those things where she saw my, my, my music, my musical ability before I.

Shane Garcia: Did at that time. So she probably knew a like, okay, you use, you use speaking with the metric. Now it's going to year, you're going to be thinking of music. They're going to be thinking of a beat that. You can kind of Bob and weave in, and that, that might help you speak. Try this out. I did, for me it did. I put on music.

Shane Garcia: I love to listen to orchestra, music and composition that. Was it, that was this, that was this, that was the same as I think. And this was before the kinks, the kink speech. So she was like doing things that was like, it was just BR it was just beyond me. But, but, but we're going from a, from a, from a musical standpoint, which I understood.

Shane Garcia: Um, and so the. The one of the last people, uh, was my acting instructor, um, uh, C like I got in and she, she, she was just like, um, short, but like feisty, um, um, w woman. From, uh, the UK, but she was a feisty because she, she pushed you. It didn't matter who you were. If you started. If, if you were white, if you were black, it didn't matter who you are.

Shane Garcia: You come into her class. C is going to, if you allow her, she's going to pull out of you. You, um, What she sees in you. So I did that and I will never forget. I like you can imagine because it's this really small room with like, maybe about 20 people in it. And for me, I think I was like 22 or three at time.

Shane Garcia: But like, I was so scared because I was like, Oh my gosh, I never did any, anything like this in my life. Um, uh, and I have to get up here and, um, do like a monologue or read from this, read from this like thing. And, uh, and so, so I, I told her her about. I might start ringing everything. And, um, uh, I won't ever forget what, what she, what she brought to me was fearless Linton.

Shane Garcia: And this, um, was, was, was being, was being fairly of the list because, um, you, so, like every week you, you had to go up in the front hand light. Read you your monologue assignment or homework that, that you have had in front of everyone. So one of, I like the first times being there, we had to, um, like. Read something from like either a favorite book or if it was a monologue or something.

Shane Garcia: And so, so, um, so I read one of my favorite books on the shack. Um, and, and so, um, I was like, I was like nervous and scared. So the part of the, of the book that, that I was reading was it was an emotional is part and I kind of needed with that. So I want to forget, she was like, I was like reading it and then, so she said, okay, Uh, close your eyes and, um, and, and, and think about this, think about this feeling.

Shane Garcia: Um, what is it? Ha ha how did, um, thing think and shooter always say safely, sit safely. Think about. A feeling a time in your life that brought you to where the feeling of the book is so high. So the reason why she said safely was because it's scary to too, and it can be dangerous for someone to go back into a feeling, but I was very open.

Shane Garcia: So I went back, I went back into all the. All the, all the stuff, you know, that I've been through. And I just, I like, I just read it and it was like, I started to just get teary-eyed and, but I didn't even think about stuttering. I just, I just read that, that page. And so, um, another thing that she said. To me.

Shane Garcia: She, she, she, she was, she was, she was hard on the do because, um, because, because she believed in you that much. And so that's what I felt. Um, so I won't ever forget one of the last things that she said. To me, because she did actually pass away, um, in may, um, due to cancer, um, which that hit me and I, it was, it was very sad.

Shane Garcia: Um, but one of the last things that she said to me, which I will never forget, she cause like, um, cause like I was like telling her about my stuttering and, and so, and so, so she said, I want you to. To look at this log and sing it. So as I have on my life, sing it and she said, yeah, sing it just when, when, when you're at home, just, just, just, just sing it.

Shane Garcia: And so I know from singing songs in the shower or whatever it is, did something about, I mean, you, you may probably know. More than me, but some, some, something about singing that you just, you just, you just flow. So that's what I did that when I went home and I just sang the Monarch, how is it singing it?

Shane Garcia: And then I slowed it down. I slowed down the singing, but it was still singing. And then I was focusing on my breath and all those stuff, you know? And so she just, she, she, she gave me this, this fearless way about shame that it was like, she did it. Is she, she, she wasn't afraid to, she wasn't afraid to push me because I, because I stuttered.

Shane Garcia: But then again, I wasn't afraid to be pushed because I was like, it was like, I was fighting for somebody, you know, Um,

Uri Schneider: let's go there. Cause I got three things we're going to squeeze in before I let you go. Cause I'm not going to wait another nine years for the SQL,

Shane Garcia: uh, here. Yeah.

Uri Schneider: So first of all, I got to respect Adam.

Uri Schneider: He dropped a request. Um, would you dance, would you give us either a moonwalk or something? Maybe a little taste from, from your, uh, so you think you could answer, we're going to save that for the, for the video that we'll share later. What'd you give us anything.

Uri Schneider: If you want them to dance, drop your likes, your comments. Share this. If you're listening, if you're listening, you can see the video on our blog page, but yeah, go for it, man. Let's see what we got just for those of you that don't realize he's the real deal. I didn't just ask a guy that looks like the Shane Garcia to have a chat with me, a real Shane.

Uri Schneider: And if you don't believe me, just watch this guy move for a minute. Yeah, I just, I I'll even do like Peter you'll take care of it. I think

Shane Garcia: I'm good. So I just, I just, um, let me see me.

Shane Garcia: I'll even put all like, like a little, like a little song,

Uri Schneider: hopefully. Cool. I'm going to dance like my 70 year old Jewish grandma. We'll do the whole row over here while you get cute.

Shane Garcia: Let me, let me see. Okay.

Uri Schneider: I'm more than all the words you've spoken through this movement. We're gonna, we're gonna listen. We're gonna listen and see what can be said and what can be expressed through movement in ways that words, words, maybe can't even touch.

Uri Schneider: We got joy waiting for the dance. Yeah. Keep dropping those joy. As a former dancer, we were on that clubhouse last week and on Wednesday, we'll be back Wednesday. 11:00 AM I clubhouse? Try and make that a weekly dance weekly, hang out. But you can't see anything today. You can see, see Shane dance, no extra.

Uri Schneider: Yeah, no extra fee

Shane Garcia: to do this one. Um, let me actually, it's all about

Uri Schneider: the timing. You know, Steph was also a dancer. We got a lot of dancers here and we got Adam worth his moonwalk. And as we're talking, no doubt about it. No doubt about it.

Shane Garcia: Um,

Uri Schneider: right. You didn't think I was going to let this happen without a dance. Yeah, of course

Uri Schneider: is the first and only podcast where we actually feature dancing on the test. If you listen carefully, you can feel it.

Shane Garcia: I don't know if you can hear the song, but probably.

Shane Garcia: See.

Shane Garcia: You too.

Shane Garcia: Shit.

Uri Schneider: Yeah, I can drop your applause. Everybody give your likes your loves. Holy smokes. A lot, a lot of messages and Adam does not relax easily. He says he's relaxing. That was so chill. Like a watch you dance forever, man. That was communication. Adam says, Anna Paula says beautiful and moving. It's perfect segue, Shane.

Uri Schneider: I mean, it's hard to follow that, but that brings me right back to every time I watched your performance there. And I wanted to just ask you, uh, something you said on clubhouse. I thought it was worth repeating. You said, uh, you know, getting on a stage, they are getting ready to perform. You were a bit nervous.

Uri Schneider: And I think a lot of people can relate to the nerves. A lot of the feelings of holding back of, I don't know if I made a mistake signing up. I think I could still get back to the train, you know, I could still, I still bail out. Right. But you didn't bail out. Um, how did you, how did you hold that? How did you hold that fear, nervousness and get through that, and then I'm interested.

Uri Schneider: When the judge, and I don't know if that was rehearsed or known that he was going to interject when you were saying your name and you stuttered? No. Okay. So, so lining up outside, there's the video of you line it up and you're doing the, you're doing the huddle, like before you're going to go on center field, you know, um, what was going through your mind and how did you kind of get through that nervousness, especially to get to a place of performing in such a zone?

Shane Garcia: Well, um, I was, I was so, you know, what was going through my mind? I was, I was so determined. I was, I was just so determined to, um,

Shane Garcia: to show the world or what, what I had. To show them that like all of this, all of this, like inside of me, I just wanted to show the world. And so I, um, I, I got up, I got up on stage and, uh, and. Well, right, right before that. Right. I was like pumped and I was like, all right, I'm bout to go home. I like do my little stretches wherever it is, you know?

Shane Garcia: Um, and so I was just like, okay. Um, like saying this is happening, like this is a really about to happen. And so, um, I, I, I, for sure, I have like always been a person that would take a risk. I'm a huge risk taker of it. So that for me, I was like, okay, Is this, the, this is about to happen. You're you're you're you're up next.

Shane Garcia: Okay. Just don't forget. You're here to inspire at least one person. Just one. That was that. That was literally what was happening right before I walked on stage. I walked on stage.

Uri Schneider: So just, just hold that, just a little reflection on that. The best way that you found to get over the fear wasn't to suppress the fear, push the fear away, but to lean into purpose, sounds like I'm here to inspire maybe just even one person.

Uri Schneider: That's why I'm here. So for everybody, for myself, um, touched, um, have shivers. I know other people do too, you know, in that moment where you're going to take that risk, you're going to expose yourself, you know, it, uh, there's some exposure there stepping on stage, whether you're going to. Not perform your dance moves the way you wished or gonna stutter when you introduce yourself as so many things about it that are like high, high stress stepping into the spotlight, but being driven, not by pushing down the fear, but by pushing up on the purpose, why you're there figuring out that positive purpose?

Uri Schneider: I love it. That's really powerful.

Shane Garcia: Thank you. And, and, and I, that, that was, that was, that was honestly just like my, my thought obviously it's like, okay, buddy here. You're about to, yup. About to go. All you have to do is just get over this. This, this, this first hump, which is, it's just speaking.

Uri Schneider: The other cool thing about what you just said is we all have a voice in our head.

Uri Schneider: And whether you picture it as that little guy in your right shoulder and little guy on your left shoulder, one saying, don't do it. Don't do it. You can't do this. You don't embarrass yourself and embarrass everybody. You gonna let us down. And the other voice says, come on, man, you got this, you got something special, share it.

Uri Schneider: And you turned up the volume on that encouraging voice. And all of us got to learn. We all got to learn how to, how to be our own best friend, how to be our own best coach, how to be our own best advocate, how to be that pump-up because we all have that voice. That's always there that says be careful is there to keep us safe, but it doesn't help us push through.

Uri Schneider: And we got to exercise just dialing up, you know, on the, on the, um,

Shane Garcia: I always say, I always say, um, and, and this is like a huge, a huge thing that I teach in my, in my class, um, is, is, uh, is, is to like live in the uncomfort because I, I, I just feel like. You're your only way of really like, you can't go for it if you're in a comfortable position.

Shane Garcia: And that kid, that, that kid that can be with anything that could be a job or a career. Oh, whatever it is. If leadership relationship. Yeah. If, if you're, if you're comfortable, how it's, what, what the comfort is is it's like, it's not so much that it's safe, but it's, it's like a security net, it's it? It, it is safe.

Shane Garcia: And. For me, I was just, I'm like, I'm like the, the, the greatest, like the greatest things, the greatest leaps that I've ever made and still to this day was constantly putting myself in positions that were comfortable. But. I have, but I have a greater purpose. My purpose is bigger than my comfort.

Uri Schneider: Oh, everybody knows.

Uri Schneider: You can all help us find those inspiring lines. I just got mine. Your purpose is bigger than your comfort. That is, you know, everybody wants to be comfortable, but you don't achieve your purpose when you stay comfortable. And you got to decide what you prefer sometimes just simple choice. It's not simple, but it can be boiled down to that.

Uri Schneider: You want to lean into purpose or you want to lean into staying comfortable.

Shane Garcia: Right. And, and so, so, so like for instance, in the, in the, cause my classes is, is called release. And so what, like, um, I think, um, I think I'm always known for. For the, like, throwing them into the like deep uncharted waters, which would, which would, I would just like make them in a circle, just, just go in the circle and just.

Shane Garcia: Dance and you believe it or not, that's a very uncomfortable feeling for a lot of the answers that that ever done that before. So I'm always putting them in, in, in. And then, and then on comfortable position, whether that might be to even speak about what they're feeling, what they're going through or anything of that sort.

Shane Garcia: And what you see is week after week, you see the growth because that comfort becomes this like. It turns into this confidence, this courage. And that was something that I, I like, I always put myself in too. Not with a lot of, not, not with a few things, you know, like I would still like, I'm, I'm actually, I'm 20 to nine.

Shane Garcia: Um, Yeah, my, my, my birthday was actually four days ago. Um, so, um, and

Uri Schneider: I'm in a private message. You a little birthday dance. I'm not comfortable doing it right here. And everybody, especially following those moves that you put on, but I promise that I will send you a private birthday dance. Like I feel that come and see you just turned 29.

Shane Garcia: Holy smokes. Wow.

Uri Schneider: I wanna, I want, but I want to keep you on one thing and then I want to, I wanna we'll we'll, we'll wrap this chapter shortly, but you go onto the stage. You go on purpose. You're not going to stay comfortable. And I just want to share what I wrote to me. To me. This is the, this is the moment of truth that sometimes when I go into that YouTube rabbit hole, I start watching like Mr.

Uri Schneider: Universe and like strongest man in the world. And they're like lifting rocks and running around all that. There's something stronger than any of that. And that's what this guy did standing on the stage. And it's time to say your name. And I say to this, like this, he steps on a stage and he stutters. Yeah, he started, well, not the kind you can hide.

Uri Schneider: No, no, no, no. This was the strong kind, the unavoidable kind. The uncooperative speech muscles have a own sense of when and how they're ready to say the word you have queued in mind and through it. And this man stands there with poise and courage. And each time I watched the video and shared it with countless people over the years, does it hit me harder and harder time after time.

Uri Schneider: So what was going through you at that moment? And then, and then the judge interrupts and says, Hey, I see, you know, you have a stutter, you take your time, just walk us through that. What was that like for you?

Shane Garcia: Um, that was

Shane Garcia: so I walked on stage and then I got in front of the mic. And so. I mean, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm almost certain debt in all, like any one that, that, um, does us stutter, you know, that emotions hiding it. Um, so even if it's fear or happy miss or anything of that sort. So I, uh, so I was, I was nervous and, and I just, I just, I couldn't.

Shane Garcia: I, I it's like I, I walked on stage, but I was already emotional because, because I, because I started, so even before I got up to the mic, I was a light feeling to cry because I was like, How was that? Ah, like I, like, I have to, like, I have to worry about this also, you know? Um, and, and, and, and so, and so, so God got on and got on stage, and I couldn't even say my name in the now, but, um, What the, uh, they, they didn't, they didn't because, cause they edited a lot of things.

Shane Garcia: So they actually, they actually really just let me speak just. You know, um, you know, so I went downstairs. I couldn't even say my name and the fact of me not being able to say my name. It says it took me, it took me, I was holding back. So, uh, uh, tears, because I was like, as like, Oh my gosh, I cannot say my name.

Shane Garcia: Why can I say, I know we'll buy it, but. Am I am I head? I was like, shame, don't cry just to say your name. And, and so I said it, and then, you know, he, he, he said, and you and you, and you I'm stuttering. I said, I do. And then I, um, I, I honestly, I honestly forgot, um, A lot of the concepts as well, so, so long ago, but I think they were like asking me about like, Oh, they did ask me about like, uh, I, I think they asked me about my childhood or, and then they asked me about like, why.

Shane Garcia: It is that, that I do,

Uri Schneider: you know what? I focused on something very bizarre, bizarre, unusual that happened there. The judge says he interrupts you kind of after you get your first syllable out, but your name is one syllable. And, uh, and he says, um, I think it's something like this, that the judge says, Oh, I see you.

Uri Schneider: I see your stutter. That's okay. Just take your time. It's very brave of you to be here. It was take your time and we won't finish your sentences. So just take your time. And then you, you respond to that in a way that I think is surprising to a lot of people. I, it strikes me every time because most people think the Cardinal rule is don't ever, ever finish someone's sentences.

Uri Schneider: And so he goes with, I see you started take your time. We've owned, interrupt you. And, uh, and you respond with something like what. You know, and stuttering quite nicely, actually it helps me out. So if you know what it is, please, and they all laugh and there's this feeling of like relief and that's the moment I felt.

Uri Schneider: And I'm wondering if it's accurate everything chill.

Shane Garcia: It did 100% because, because I, I, uh, like you, you, you, can't in my. Opinion, you can't give a fence, you can only take a fence. And so I don't, I don't, uh, like I known over when some one is kind of like being like, uh, like if I'm, if I'm, if I'm speaking and then there'll be like, W w what do you like, what do you, what are you like?

Shane Garcia: You are, you, you, you will K you know, that type of feeling. I know where that's coming from. That that kind of makes me upset because I'm like, I'm like, yeah, I'm okay. I mean, you, you, you, can you hear that? I like have, uh, Like, even if you didn't in the know, it's like be more sensitive. So I exists. Exactly.

Shane Garcia: They, they, they could think that sometimes you're on drugs or something, you know? Um, but, but I can also on the other side, I can also feel. When it's like, if someone were to be able to, like, if I'm, let's say, try to say lemonade and I'm struggling on the first two little letters and they go, uh, lemonade and I'm like, thank you.

Shane Garcia: You know, because it's, it's not like that would actually, I look at it like that. That's nice. You, you, you trying to help me out because you, you, you see that probably just struggling on it and there's, I, I don't see it as something that's like, Anything to be battled or to take offense with I with, with, with, with that.

Shane Garcia: I see it as you just trying to help me out and that's okay. And that's fine. I, you can help me out. And then I can just continue on with, with like what I was just trying to say. You know, so he said that and, uh, yeah. And, and I was like, uh, yeah, actually that would help me out a lot. So thank you. You know, um, because I was really, I was being honest, you know, um, just because I don't, I don't see it as something to take offense on, you know?

Shane Garcia: Um, yeah, but that different folks. Yeah. And, and so that really just brought it down and then I was like, explaining like how I dance and you know, everything. And so I was just really, really anxious to just, just to just get onto the stage and just to, just to do it, like

Uri Schneider: some people just want to talk. You just want it to like talk to dance.

Uri Schneider: Let me just do my thing, you know, let me get to my, my, uh, my main gig. You know, I just want to say, I think that's so profound. We talk about also in this transcending stuttering framework, I think something that's overlooked. Everyone says different strokes for different folks. There's no one way, but what I loved Shane about that is.

Uri Schneider: You know, no one could tell you what's right for you. Some people would say categorically, the Cardinal rule is don't finish someone's words, but if the prison tells you actually that would help me out. Like that's your truth and that's what you want. That's great. Now that doesn't mean as with many things from this conversation and others that you should go assume that and copy paste it to someone else.

Uri Schneider: Many people could feel could feel like you're stepping on my words, you know, give me the space and the dignity and the time that I deserve to express myself. But at the same time, I think what, what released the judges. And I think for people who stutter, who are listening, and if you're not a person who starters, you know, we're all looking for cues.

Uri Schneider: And if like it's left unspoken, it's, it's like inevitable that someone's going to get feel like they got their toes stepped on or feel a little bit uneasy. But once the person who stutters and the person who's on the other side create some common ground and kind of just say it like it is like. Touch the elephant in the room and for the person who stutters to own this is what's up.

Uri Schneider: Yeah. Sometimes I got a cute up at it just doesn't come at the same. They don't. Yeah, that happens. Sometimes what you could do is if you just hang in, it's worth the wait or what you could do is if you know what I'm going to say, please, you know, but that's up to you, but if you don't say that, It's inevitably going to be uneasy, but the minute you say it, what's amazing is if you watch the clip and I'll certainly share it when we share this and I shared it on the event is like, you see the tension drop, you see everybody just for you, Shane and for all the judges.

Uri Schneider: And everybody's able to focus on what's really at hand, which is a master at his craft doing his thing. And that's nine years before now, like Holy smokes, what we saw today was like, Ooh, that was coming out of you. Holy smokes. So you dropped something new recently and hopefully you'll send me some links to share parting thoughts, final thoughts for today.

Uri Schneider: Uh, something you would wish people walk away with just as, um, some insight, maybe it's, uh, for parents of young people finding their creative inside themselves for young creatives that are trying to. Get through school and get their 1.9, nine bumped up to a two, waiting for somebody to recognize their talent, believing that they actually have something worth sharing with the world.

Uri Schneider: I don't know kids who stutter, but what would be something that you would wish to leave us with? And then hopefully it will book round two before you go away for nine years.

Shane Garcia: No was definitely not a week. We definitely have to have a part two because there's, there's, there's so much, there's so much that, that there there's even the, the, the part two is, is even the story of what happened after the show. And like, I fell. Like, uh, just meant, meant to leave spirit Chu. I was in such a dark area and I had to go from that to, Oh, so that's like a part two.

Shane Garcia: That's like a, as like a big, it's like a big, um, um, story. But, um,

Uri Schneider: Arden was for, for today for this chapter,

Shane Garcia: I, I would, I would go back to. Um, well, what I said earlier about having have, have your purpose, um, be greater than your own comfort. Um, and, and, and, but to, to have that, you, you have to really. Look at yourself.

Shane Garcia: You have to ask yourself, what is, what is my purpose? What do I want to, what do I want to, to give to people? What do I want to have like a foot print to help change even a 0.1% of. Well, cause, cause it's not like, it just, it w what I'm trying to say is like, for those that are listening is that you, you win something and the world needs you to, so, Because the world needs you to do find your purpose, and it's not going to come over and night, but start the journey of.

Shane Garcia: Of of what, what is, what is your purpose? And it could be in anything, it could be in anything from, from you even making these fashion bracelets that, that give people. Joy that give people happiness, that, that brace little leg can actually reconcile a friendship that, that was broken in between two people, you know, a goes so much greater than, um, then, then, then what?

Shane Garcia: Well, what we see. Um, so yeah. Your purpose is greater than your comfort. And, and once you, once you find, once you have an eye to your purpose or hone in on it, write it on a piece of paper, put it on a wall, put it, put it in your phone because when it gets tough, When stuff hits the fan, you might, you might fall from a bit, but if you, but if you keep, but if you keep looking at it, but it's good.

Shane Garcia: If you keep the habit of remembering it, you're going to pick, you're going to pick yourself. Back up again. And the, one of the, one of the things that our lead with this, I heard this yesterday and this hit me like, and it was this, and it was so simple. And it goes along with your purpose is bigger than your comfort is that.

Shane Garcia: Thomas Edison, it took him a thousand tries to make the light bulb a thousand. Um, yeah, that's all I'm gonna say it. It took him a thousand tries to make the light bulb. So how many times is it going to take you to fall or to have a setback? It might be a thousand times. They might be 2000 times, but what's your purpose?

Shane Garcia: He had a purpose and no matter what came his way, no matter what this comfort came, his way, he, he, it, it was greater than it, then it, everything. So have your purpose be greater than your discomfort?

Uri Schneider: Two, two thoughts to share on that. Holy smokes. Um, first of all, record a record winner right here. We had some long ones, but this has been the longest episode yet.

Uri Schneider: We've got more comments flying on the chat. With some of the same similar characters and some new people that are just totally resonating and riffing on so much of what you shared Shane. So thank you. I'll share two thoughts. One is another value that we really put forward in this transcending stuttering framework is it's not about the content, it's about the people.

Uri Schneider: And I feel like you brought out that idea that your teacher helped you tune into feelings that feelings matter. That it's not just technique and it's not just playing the notes and hitting the meter just right. It's about feeling the notes. It's about feeling what you're feeling and letting your feelings come through and the way that you in that very unpleasant moment, you've found your purpose, that it was in an upset moment.

Uri Schneider: You closed the door to your room. We all know that feeling where you're just too upset to be with anybody. And sometimes in that place, you find that you suddenly want to dance. You suddenly want to write at something you want to write or sing or scream or run or lift or brake, you know, but whatever it is, sometimes it's from a comfortable place that you find your gifts and your purpose.

Uri Schneider: And sometimes it's from pressure. It's from constraint is from strain and stress and challenge and ordeals that you find something that's squeezed out to you that otherwise wouldn't get squeezed out. So I think it's so powerful that the shame that we see moving in front of us today was born out of a kid who was so frustrated.

Uri Schneider: He slammed the door and turned down the shades just decided to dance. And that day was this breakthrough moment. I think I got some movements on me that is so Epic. And the last thing is people ask me, why do you, why are you so committed to stuttering? What's your deal with this? Why is this your purpose?

Uri Schneider: So it really goes back to my dad. Neither my dad, nor I and stutter, but my dad and this boy reminds me of you, Shane. My dad met his first person that he worked with who stutters, and he didn't know Jack about stuttering. He goes into the public school and it was like a bunch of, um, a bunch of clubs and gangs running the school.

Uri Schneider: It was like, Not the part of the Bronx. I grew up in the other part of the Bronx that everyone talks about this, like a bit of a rough neighborhood. And this kid was a Hispanic kid. And if you were Hispanic, you were the minority. Let's put it that way. And he walks into the class and he calls a kid out and a teacher says, Oh, get out, you got to go to speech, you know, very degrading experience.

Uri Schneider: And the kid comes out and he goes to my dad's face and he says, listen,

Shane Garcia: I

Uri Schneider: don't need you. So get out of here. And he turns around and goes back to his seat and all his friends applause and his story is my dad invites him and says, I'm sorry for interrupting your class. I see you could teach me a lot more about stuttering. You know, I'll pay you. So my dad pays this, this, uh, public school kids teach him the speech therapist about soldering first day comes in for his first lesson.

Uri Schneider: He negotiated his fee and my dad says, all right, I'm ready. Cause it says, what do you need to know? What do you want to know? My dad says, I don't know, what do I need to know? It says very simple. My parents told me three things. I'll leave you with these three things. So number one, listen for truth. Is that again, to speak the truth, a third is change the world for the better that when you leave this world after 120 or many, many years of good health, like your piano teacher, keep going in good health.

Uri Schneider: Um, Should leave the world a better place than when you came in and that's your purpose is. And whether it's friendship, bracelets, whether it's reaching out to people who are isolated elderly, whether it's bringing joy, rhythm music, movement, teaching somebody, algebra, being a speech therapist, being a champion.

Uri Schneider: But it's not about techniques. It's not about content. Let me, let me transmit this content. It's about helping a person connect to themselves, connect to their humanity, bring themselves it's like lighting another candle. And so Shane, I know I have shivers. When I got on with you. I have more shivers coming off this call.

Uri Schneider: We will have round two. There's now many people looking forward to it, but thank you for taking the time and sharing with us. And if anybody wants to find out more about you, I will post your link. You can post it here in the thread here on Facebook. Please share all these conversations, follow up on podcasts or any platform you want.

Uri Schneider: Transcending stuttering with reach Snyder. We have Shane today, tomorrow we'll be on with Colorado with the one and only Steph lib sack. And at the end of the week with Oregon Thursday, with Michael Turner and the creator of the stuttering film, uh, the way we talk and on Wednesday at 11:00 AM, if we're lucky, Shane might join us on clubhouse again.

Uri Schneider: So 11:00 AM on clubhouse, transcending, stuttering. Check it out. Thank you everybody for sharing the time. Thank you, Shane. Thank you so much.

Shane Garcia: Thank you.

Uri Schneider: And the live stream has done.